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I'm working on training neural networks without backpropagation / automatic differentiation, using locally derived analytic forms of update rules. Given that this allows a direct formula to be derived for the update rule, it removes alot of the overhead that is otherwise required from automatic differentiation.
However, matlab's functionalities for neural networks are currently solely based around backpropagation and automatic differentiation, such as the dlgradient function and requiring everything to be dlarrays during training.
I have two main requests, specifically for functions that perform a single operation within a single layer of a neural network, such as "dlconv", "fullyconnect", "maxpool", "avgpool", "relu", etc:
- these functions should also allow normal gpuArray data instead of requiring everything to be dlarrays.
- these functions are currently designed to only perform the forward pass. I request that these also be designed to perform the backward pass if user requests. There can be another input user flag that can be "forward" (default) or "backward", and then the function should have all the necessary inputs to perform that operation (e.g. for "avgpool" forward pass it only needs the avgpool input data and the avgpool parameters, but for the "avgpool" backward pass it needs the deriviative w.r.t. the avgpool output data, the avgpool parameters, and the original data dimensions). I know that there is a maxunpool function that achieves this for maxpool, but it has significant issues when trying to use it this way instead of by backpropagation in a dlgradient type layer, see (https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/2179587-making-a-custom-way-to-train-cnns-and-i-am-noticing-that-avgpool-is-significantly-faster-than-maxpo?s_tid=srchtitle).
I don't know how many people would benefit from this feature, and someone could always spend their time creating these functionalities themselves by matlab scripts, cuDNN mex, etc., but regardless it would be nice for matlab to have this allowable for more customizable neural net training.
Edit 15 Oct 2025: Removed incorrect code. Replaced symmatrix2sym and symfunmatrix2symfun with sym and symfun respectively (latter supported as of 2024b).
The Symbolic Math Toolbox does not have its own dot and and cross functions. That's o.k. (maybe) for garden variety vectors of sym objects where those operations get shipped off to the base Matlab functions
x = sym('x',[3,1]); y = sym('y',[3,1]);
which dot(x,y)
dot(x,y)
which cross(x,y)
cross(x,y)
clearvars
x = symmatrix('x',[3,1]); y = symmatrix('y',[3,1]);
z = symmatrix('z',[1,1]);
sympref('AbbreviateOutput',false);
dot() expands the result, which isn't really desirable for exposition.
eqn = z == dot(x,y)
Also, dot() returns the the result in terms of the conjugate of x, which can't be simplifed away at the symmatrix level
assumeAlso(sym(x),'real')
class(eqn)
try
eqn = z == simplify(dot(x,y))
catch ME
ME.message
end
To get rid of the conjugate, we have to resort to sym
eqn = simplify(sym(eqn))
but again we are in expanded form, which defeats the purpose of symmatrix (et. al.)
But at least we can do this to get a nice equation
eqn = z == x.'*y
dot errors with symfunmatrix inputs
clearvars
syms t real
x = symfunmatrix('x(t)',t,[3,1]); y = symfunmatrix('y(t)',t,[3,1]);
try
dot(x,y)
catch ME
ME.message
end
Cross works (accidentally IMO) with symmatrix, but expands the result, which isn't really desirable for exposition
clearvars
x = symmatrix('x',[3,1]); y = symmatrix('y',[3,1]);
z = symmatrix('z',[3,1]);
eqn = z == cross(x,y)
And it doesn't work at all if an input is a symfunmatrix
syms t
w = symfunmatrix('w(t)',t,[3,1]);
try
eqn = z == cross(x,w);
catch ME
ME.message
end
In the latter case we can expand with
eqn = z == cross(sym(x),symfun(w)) % x has to be converted
But we can't do the same with dot (as shown above, dot doesn't like symfun inputs)
try
eqn = z == dot(sym(x),symfun(w))
catch ME
ME.message
end
Looks like the only choice for dot with symfunmatrix is to write it by hand at the matrix level
x.'*w
or at the sym/symfun level
sym(x).'*symfun(w) % assuming x is real
Ideally, I'd like to see dot and cross implemented for symmatrix and symfunmatrix types where neither function would evaluate, i.e., expand, until both arguments are subs-ed with sym or symfun objects of appropriate dimension.
Also, it would be nice if symmatrix could be assumed to be real. Is there a reason why being able to do so wouldn't make sense?
try
assume(x,'real')
catch ME
ME.message
end
Something that I periodically wonder about is whether an integration with the Rubi integration rules package would improve symbolic integration in Matlab's Symbolic Toolbox. The project is open-source with an MIT-licensed, has a Mathematica implementation, and supposedly SymPy is working on an implementation. Much of my intrigue comes from this 2022 report that compared the previous version of Rubi (4.16.1) against various CAS systems, including Matlab 2021a (Mupad):
While not really an official metric for Rubi, this does "feel" similar to my experience computing symbolic integrals in Matlab Symbolic Toolbox vs Maple/Mathematica. What do y'all think?
Have you ever been enrolled in a course that uses an LMS and there is an assignment that invovles posting a question to, or answering a question in, a discussion group? This discussion group is meant to simulate that experience.
The functionality would allow report generation straight from live scripts that could be shared without exposing the code. This could be useful for cases where the recipient of the report only cares about the results and not the code details, or when the methodology is part of a company know how, e.g. Engineering services companies.
In order for it to be practical for use it would also require that variable values could be inserted into the text blocks, e.g. #var_name# would insert the value of the variable "var_name" and possibly selecting which code blocks to be hidden.
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Modern engineering requires both robust hardware and powerful simulation tools. MATLAB and Simulink are widely used for data analysis, control design, and embedded system development. At the same time, Kasuo offers a wide range of components—from sensors and connectors to circuit protection devices—that engineers rely on to build real-world systems.
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- Use MATLAB’s Data Acquisition Toolbox to stream sensor data directly.
- Example snippet:
s = daq("ni");
addinput(s,
"Dev1", "ai0", "Voltage");
data = read(s, seconds(
5), "OutputFormat", "Matrix");
plot(data);
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With AI agents dev coding on other languages has become so easy.
Im waiting for matlab to build something like warp but for matlab.
I know they have the current ai but with all respect it's rubbish compared to vibe coding tools in others sectors.
Matlab leads AI so it really should be leading this space.
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When you compare MATLAB Plot Gallery with matplotlib gallery, you can see that matplotlib gallery contains a lot of nice graphs which are easy to create in MATLAB but not listed in MATLAB Plot Gallery.
For example, "Data Distribution Plots" section in the MATLAB Plot Gallery includes example for pie function instead of examples for piechart and donutchart functions, etc.
mlapp being a binary is a pain point for source control. It means that you either have to:
- have hooks in your source control system to zip/unzip a mlapp. However, The Mathworks have informed users not to rely on this as the mlapp format may change.
- do all your source control in MATLAB. This is non standard behaviour. Source code and source control should be independent of each other. Web front-ends to source control systems, 3rd party source control apps, CI/CD systems and much more are extremely limited in what they can do with mlapps.
I wish an mlapp could just be a directory full of the required text/other files.
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There is no call to rescan audio devices in audioPlayerRecorder, even though PortAudio has such a call. I have a measurement environment that takes a long time to initialise. If I forget to plug in my audio device, I have to do it all over again...
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Nice to have - function output argument provide code assist when said function is called
This is a feature which doesn't apear to currently exist, but I think alot of matlab users would like, particularly ones who write alot of custom classes.
Imagine i have a custom class with some properties:
classdef CustomClass < handle
properties
name (1,1) string = "default name"
varOne (1,1) double = 0
end
methods
function obj = CustomClass(name,varOne)
obj.name = name;
obj.VarOne = varOne;
end
end
end
Then imagine I have a function which returns one of these custom class objects:
function [obj] = Calculation(Var1,Var2,name)
arguments (Input)
Var1 (1,1) double
Var2 (1,1) double
end
arguments (Output)
obj (1,1) CustomClass
end
results = Var1 + Var2;
obj = CustomClass(name,result);
end
With this class and this function which returns one of these class objects, I would like the fact that I provided "(1,1) CustomClass" in the output arguemnts block of function "Calculation(Var1,Var2,name)" to trigger code assist automaticaly show me, when writing code that the retuned value from this funciton has properties "name" and "varOne" in the object.
For istance, if I write the following code with this function and the class in the Matlab search path
testObj = Calculation(1,1,"test");
testObj.varOne = 10; %the property "varOne" doesn't apear in code assist when writing this line of code
I would like that the fact function "Calcuation(Var1,Var2,name) has the output arguments block enforcing that this function must return an object of "CustomClass" to make code assist recognise that "testObj" is a "CustomClass" object, just as if testObj was an input argument to another function which had an input argument requiring that "testObj" was a "CustomClass" object.
Maybe this is a feature that may be added to matlab in future releases? (please and thank you LOL)
This is a feature which doesn't apear to currently exist, but I think alot of matlab users would like, particularly ones who write alot of custom classes.
Imagine i have a custom class with some properties:
classdef CustomClass < handle
properties
name (1,1) string = "default name"
varOne (1,1) double = 0
end
methods
function obj = CustomClass(name,varOne)
obj.name = name;
obj.VarOne = varOne;
end
end
end
Then imagine I have a function which returns one of these custom class objects:
function [obj] = Calculation(Var1,Var2,name)
arguments (Input)
Var1 (1,1) double
Var2 (1,1) double
end
arguments (Output)
obj (1,1) CustomClass
end
results = Var1 + Var2;
obj = CustomClass(name,result);
end
With this class and this function which returns one of these class objects, I would like the fact that I provided "(1,1) CustomClass" in the output arguemnts block of function "Calculation(Var1,Var2,name)" to trigger code assist automaticaly show me, when writing code that the retuned value from this funciton has properties "name" and "varOne" in the object.
For istance, if I write the following code with this function and the class in the Matlab search path
testObj = Calculation(1,1,"test");
testObj.varOne = 10; %the property "varOne" doesn't apear in code assist when writing this line of code
I would like that the fact function "Calcuation(Var1,Var2,name) has the output arguments block enforcing that this function must return an object of "CustomClass" to make code assist recognise that "testObj" is a "CustomClass" object, just as if testObj was an input argument to another function which had an input argument requiring that "testObj" was a "CustomClass" object.
Maybe this is a feature that may be added to matlab in future releases? (please and thank you LOL)
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